and soon to be in spain and soon to be in singapore. what that gets you is that gets you ships that are forward. numbers of ships are important. numbers of ships forward are of most importance. >> reducing transit time for example. >> precisely. you get the presence of a ship forward a factor of .8, maybe 20% maintenance, refresh, refuel, things of that nature. if you have to come from the west coast or east coast, i need four ships to keep one forward. one is there. one just came back. one is on its way or getting ready and one is in deep maintenance so you see the leverage. >> being forward, present and engaging has been things the navy has been delivering for more than 200 years but you said the navy would have to focus much more on war fighting and less on engagement. the new age strategy remains, for example, to engage and to be forward, to cooperate with allies over that vast region. critics say your drive for more combat foe qus is at odds with -- focus is at odds with that. is it and what is your strategy? >> i don't think it's